GUN CONTROL! “Guns Don’t Kill People; People Kill People!” – NRA Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre. AMY GOODMAN: “A Newtown church was evacuated on Sunday after police responded to a threat against those inside. An Indiana man equipped with a 47-gun arsenal was arrested on Sunday after allegedly threatening to kill children at a local elementary school. Oklahoma police arrested an 18-year-old high school student on Friday who was allegedly planning a school-shooting massacre. In Newport Beach, California, an alleged gunman was arrested after reportedly firing 50 shots in a mall parking lot. In San Antonio, Texas, two men were reportedly injured in a shooting at a movie theater Sunday night.” – Tabacco: Without A Gun, Nobody Could Shoot Nobody! If Little Johnny Aims A Pistol At You In Fun, Do You NOT Fear For Your Life Because It’s Only Little Johnny With The Gun?

 

THE GLORY OF GUNS!

 

 

Just because some Idiot says it’s so does NOT make it so!

 

Do gun sellers and NRA Spokesmen have vested interests in seeing that as many guns are sold as possible?

 

If your Answer to that is, “Yes!”, you are an intelligent and honest person.

 

If your Answer to that is, “No!”, then you are an NRA member, a Fool, a Liar or all three!

 

Why would you TRUST someone with a vested interest to give you advice on the very subject in which their vested interests lie! Can you say, “STUPID”!

 

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”, said Wayne LaPierre, NRA’s executive vice president.

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Tabacco: Did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine the NRA would come up with a “Solution” to gun violence against our children that DID NOT include BUYING MORE GUNS!

 

This is why we must NEVER LISTEN TO CAPITALISTS WITH VESTED INTERESTS TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS!

 

PS Additional comments from Wayne LaPierre, transcribed from TV by Tabacco:

“I call on Congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation”. (TRANSLATION: We need to BUY MORE GUNS to arm those additional police officers!)

 

LaPierre knows that is NOT going to happen – have you heard of the FISCAL CLIFF! His comments are disingenuous, predictable and self-serving! Such is the NATURE OF CAPITALISM!

 

 

A Canadian man, interviewed by Michael Moore in ‘Bowling For Columbine’, “If more guns made people safer, then America would be one of the safest countries in the world. It isn’t; it’s the opposite.” – Transcribed by Tabacco (Let’s hope Canada never permits Disaster Capitalists to take over the Canadian psyche!)

 

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DEC. 26, 2012, HEADLINES

 

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Protesters Disrupt NRA as It Calls for Guns in Schools

 

The National Rifle Association has broken a lengthy silence following the Newtown shooting massacre with a call to deploy armed guards in every U.S. school. NRA head Wayne LaPierre unveiled the proposal at a highly anticipated news conference on Friday, the one-week anniversary of Newtown.

 

Wayne LaPierre: “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I call on Congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation and to do it now, to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in January.”

 

LaPierre was interrupted by CODEPINK protesters who held up banners reading “The NRA Is Killing Our Kids” and “NRA: Blood On Our Hands.” The NRA spoke out after going silent in the days following Newtown, ceasing activity on its Facebook and Twitter pages. In the days leading up to its call for firearms in schools, the NRA had promised to unveil what it called “meaningful contributions” to the gun control debate. After sparking a torrent of criticism, LaPierre appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday to defend his stance.

 

Wayne LaPierre: “If it’s crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. I’ll tell you what the American people — I think the American people think it’s crazy not to do it. It’s the one thing that would keep people safe. And the NRA is going to try to do that.”

 

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NY Gunman Kills 2 Firefighters After Setting Home on Fire

 

In another deadly shooting incident in the Northeast, two firefighters were killed and another two were wounded in upstate New York Monday night when a gunman ambushed them as they entered his burning home. Police say William Spengler set his house ablaze and then opened fire at the firefighters who rushed to the scene. Spengler later shot himself after a gunfight with police. Webster, New York Police Chief Gerald Pickering said Spengler had been heavily armed and left a chilling note bragging about “killing people”.

 

Gerald Pickering: “He had armed himself with three different weapons and an arsenal of ammunition. He had armed himself with a Smith & Wesson .38-caliber revolver, a Mossberg 12-gauge pump shotgun, and a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle with a flash suppressor. I will read to you one of the sentences out of the two-page or two- or three-page typewritten note that really clearly goes to his intent, while the note does not go to motive. Quote: ‘I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I like doing best, killing people.’”

 

Police now say they have found human remains in the home believed to belong to Spengler’s sister, who lived there with him. Spengler had previously served 17 years in prison for the murder of his grandmother.

 

 


 

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Wednesday, December 26, 2012 Full Show

“Blood on Your Hands”: CODEPINK Interrupts NRA’s Wayne LaPierre as He Calls for Guns in U.S. Schools

 

NRA Killing Our Kids” — that was the message of CODEPINK activists as they interrupted the first public address by National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre since the Sandy Hook massacre. LaPierre broke the NRA’s post-Newtown silence on Friday by calling for armed guards in every school. CODEPINK protesters disrupted him by holding up banners reading “NRA Killing Our Kids” and “NRA: Blood On Your Hands.” In the days leading up to its call for firearms in schools, the NRA had promised to unveil what it called “meaningful contributions” to the gun control debate. [includes rush transcript]

 

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NERMEENSHAIKH: The National Rifle Association is coming under increasing criticism for refusing to back any form of new gun control following the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The NRA broke its silence on Friday when the group’s CEO, Wayne LaPierre, gave a speech in Washington calling for armed guards in every school. While repeatedly defending guns, LaPierre condemned Hollywood, video manufacturers and the nation’s media.

 

WAYNELAPIERRE: And here’s another dirty little truth that the media try their best to conceal: There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people through vicious, violent video games with names like “Bulletstorm,” “Grand Theft Auto,” “Mortal Kombat” and “Splatterhouse.” And here’s one; it’s called “Kindergarten Killers.” It’s been online for 10 years. How come my research staff can find it, and all of yours couldn’t or didn’t want anyone to know you had found it? Add another hurricane, add another natural disaster—I mean, we have flood-soaked films out there like American Psycho, Natural Born Killers, that are aired like propaganda loops on splatter days and every single day. A thousand music videos—and you all know this—portray life as a joke, and they play murder—portray murder as a way of life. And then they all have the nerve to call it “entertainment.”

 

AMYGOODMAN: The speech by Wayne LaPierre, the head of the NRA, was twice interrupted by members of the protest group CODEPINK.

 

WAYNELAPIERRE: And the monsters and the predators of the world know it and exploit it. That must change now. The truth is—

 

AMYGOODMAN: LaPierre is speaking. A sign is being held up over his face that says, “NRA Killing Our Kids.”

 

TIGHEBARRY:NRA, stop killing our children. It’s the NRA and all—and assault weapons that are killing our children, not armed ownership, not armed teachers. We’ve got to end the arming. We’ve got to end the violence. We’ve got to stop the killing! Stop the killing in our schools! Stop the killing in our malls! Stop the killing in our streets! The NRA is killing our children! We’ve got to stop the violence! And violence begins with the NRA! Stating the true fact that they are the perpetrators of the crimes that are taking place in our schools and on our streets!

 

AMYGOODMAN: [Wayne LaPierre] continued as the protester was taken out.

 

WAYNELAPIERRE: The truth is that our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Minutes later, another member of CODEPINK, Medea Benjamin, held up a banner reading: “NRA: Blood Is on Your Hands.”

 

MEDEABENJAMIN: Reckless behavior coming from the NRA. The NRA has blood on its hands! The NRA has blood on its hands! Shame on the NRA!

 

 

 

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As U.S. Faces Gun Epidemic Post-Newtown, Obama Urged to Break With NRA & Back Global U.N. Arms Treaty

 

As the debate over gun control intensifies in the United States, work continues on an international treaty to regulate the global arms trade. On Monday, the United Nations General Assembly voted to reopen negotiations on the treaty. The United States dropped its opposition after stonewalling talks in July, a move that prompted critics to accuse President Obama of caving to congressional Republicans and the National Rifle Association in an election year. “I have not seen anywhere else in the world a gun lobby that has the same level of influence on its own government as the NRA does in the United States,” says Andrew Feinstein, author of “The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade” and a former African National Congress member of Parliament in South Africa. “The U.S. buys and sells almost as much weaponry as the rest of the world combined. So what happens in the U.S. is going to have enormous impact on the rest of the world.” [includes rush transcript]

 

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AMYGOODMAN: As the debate over gun control intensifies in the United States, work continues on an international treaty to regulate the global arms trade. On Monday, the United Nations General Assembly voted to reopen negotiations on the treaty. The National Rifle Association has been a leading opponent of the deal.

 

To talk more about this, we go to London to speak with Andrew Feinstein, author of The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade. He’s working on a film version of the book. Feinstein is a former member of the African National Congress and member of Parliament in South Africa.

 

We welcome you to Democracy Now! As you—as we are now in this aftermath of the massacre at the elementary school in Connecticut, Andrew Feinstein, and after a week the NRA spoke out, saying that every school in America should have an armed guard, what is your response?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: To be quite honest, observing the response of the NRA to this awful tragedy from—from a distance, from outside the United States, it seems inexplicable. It verges on the crazy. To suggest that the best way to deal with a bad guy with a gun, as Mr. LaPierre put it, is to have a good guy with a gun completely loses sight of the real picture, which is to ensure that the bad guy, as he calls him, doesn’t have access to the gun, which, to someone like myself who researches now for over 12 years the global arms trade and spends a lot of time in the U.S., seems commonsense, seems so obvious. But the NRA seems to be part of a massive group of vested interests that don’t want to see any change to the status quo because it’s a multi-trillion-dollar business.

 

And it occurs within the context of what many years ago C. Wright Mills called the “military metaphysic.” And just listening to your news headlines at the beginning of your show, to hear about the deployment of U.S. troops in 35 countries in Africa, the continent from which I come, my continent is perceived by the United States through a military prism. Similarly, domestically within the U.S., it seemed, until the tragedy at Sandy Hook, that these issues weren’t even up for debate. And to those of us who would like to see a far better-regulated arms trade, a highly regulated arms trade, because the reality at the moment is that the global trade in weapons is regulated less than the global trade in bananas. And just as we regulate things that can be harmful to our health—tobacco being the most obvious one—surely the guns that kill us need to be extremely highly regulated, as well.

 

AMYGOODMAN: We’re speaking to Andrew Feinstein, author of The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade. This is Democracy Now! We’ll be back with him in a moment.

 

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AMYGOODMAN: Our guest is Andrew Feinstein, author of The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade, working on the film on the same subject, also a former ANC member of the South African Parliament. He’s speaking to us from London. Nermeen?

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein, can you lay out what the links are between the global arms trade, as you discuss it in your book, The Shadow World, and the kinds of mass shootings we’ve seen here in the U.S., and most recently the one in Newtown, Connecticut?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: Absolutely. The global arms trade is a $1.74 trillion-a-year business. That’s $250 for every person on the planet. And the profit motive behind the global arms trade is absolutely crucial. This is a business that is about big, big money. The trade contributes around 40 percent of all corruption in all global trade. So its impact on countries, on governments, on ordinary individuals in terms of the economic opportunity costs are absolutely massive.

 

Now, you will find that many spokespeople for the trade would try to distinguish between the legal or formal trade, on the one hand, and the illegal or illicit trade, on the other. I argue in the book that this distinction is a fallacy, that the boundaries are in fact extremely fuzzy and that the licit and the illicit are very closely intertwined, in addition to which the industry is largely protected because of its very close links to governments, to intelligence agencies, obviously to the military, and to lawmakers. So it is very seldom—even with the inadequate regulations that exist globally around the trade in weapons, it is very, very seldom that people who break those regulations are actually brought to book. To give you an example, we’ve recorded 502 violations of U.N. arms embargoes since they were introduced. Two of those have resulted in any legal action whatsoever. One resulted in a conviction.

 

Now, the situation that pertains at a global or international level has very many similarities with the domestic situation, particularly in the U.S., because let’s—let’s bear in mind while discussing this that the U.S. buys and sells almost as much weaponry as the rest of the world combined. So what happens in the U.S. is going to have enormous impact on the rest of the world. And what happens domestically, in terms of the ownership of weaponry within the U.S., really does, as I say, reflect the global trade in arms, in that we see it’s a $3.5 billion-a-year industry. And here we’re talking about smaller weaponry—about handguns, about assault rifles, semi-automatic weapons, the sorts that are used in the tragedy at Sandy Hook and all of the others that we’ve seen over the years throughout the U.S.

 

But the NRA, the gun sellers, the gun users seem to be afforded an extraordinary level of protection by government, by law enforcement authorities, just as happens on the global level. And part of this is because of the revolving door of people between, for instance, the NRA and government. Recent figures suggest that 15 of 28 officials in the NRA came from—sorry, lobbyists in the NRA came from important positions within government dealing with some of these same issues, so that the sorts of decisions being made by government are being informed disproportionately by those who want guns to be unregulated, by those who are making massive profits out the suffering of the victims of gun crime.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein, can you talk about some of the people whom you discuss in the book who are some of the key involved in global arms trade—for instance, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who was the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. and is now the head of intelligence in Saudi Arabia?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: Absolutely. Let’s use two examples. Prince Bandar would be the perfect example. Prince Bandar, while ambassador to the U.S., was used by the Saudi government to negotiate a wide range of arms deals around the world, which included the biggest arms deal in history, a deal called the al-Yamamah deal between the United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia worth 43 billion British pounds. Around six billion pounds of bribes were paid on that deal alone. Over one billion pounds of those bribes flowed through Prince Bandar’s accounts that were held in Riggs Bank in Washington, D.C., as it then was. Bandar describes a 15-minute conversation with then British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, in which he says he told the prime minister that the Saudis had certain special needs, the prime minister said she fully understood that, and that was the end of the negotiation, the easiest negotiation he’s ever had for an arms deal. Prince Bandar has effectively acted as bag man on all sorts of international arms transactions going back to the Iran-Contra imbroglio of the Reagan administration, up until fairly recent times. Bandar today, as you mention, is head of state intelligence, state security in the Saudi government, which is not only a position of massive influence on the levels of human rights abuses and repression that is conducted by the Saudi state, but is also crucial to the military role that the Saudi state plays, particularly in the Middle East and particularly on behalf of the United States of America, which is why the Obama administration is in the middle of negotiations for a new arms deal with Saudi Arabia totaling $60 billion.

 

Now, let me give you one other example very quickly. And that’s the example of Viktor Bout, the Russian arms dealer sometimes called the “Merchant of Death.” Bout now sits—quite correctly, in my opinion—in a jail in the United States. What was barely mentioned in his trial for his gun trafficking around the world, in most of the world’s worst conflicts, is that for three years, between 2003 and 2005, while there was an Interpol warrant out for Bout’s arrest, Bout’s companies and Bout’s planes were flying weaponry, equipment and supplies into Baghdad airport on behalf of the United States Department of Defense and U.S. defense contractors. Now, this is why I say the legal and illegal trade in weapons are inextricably intertwined. And Bout is just perhaps the best-known example of literally hundreds, if not thousands, of arms dealers around the world who play these duplicitous roles and who work on behalf of not only some of the world’s worst warlords, but also the world’s most powerful governments.

 

AMYGOODMAN: Andrew Feinstein, Viktor Bout is known as the Merchant of Death for running what the U.N. and the U.S. say was an intentional arms trafficking network—an international arms trafficking network. In April, during a pre-sentencing telephone interview with Voice of Russia, Bout maintained his innocence, saying all arms suppliers in the U.S. would be in prison, too, if the same standards were applied across the board. Take a listen.

 

VIKTORBOUT: I am innocent. I don’t commit any crime. There is no crime to sit and talk. If you’re going to apply the same standards to me, then you’re going to, you know, jail all those arms dealers in America who are selling the arms and ending up killing Americans. They are involved even more than me.

 

AMYGOODMAN: That was Viktor Bout speaking from jail, Andrew Feinstein.

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: The reality of what Bout says is that what he was doing was breaking laws where they exist. He broke countless U.N. arms embargoes. The situation in the U.S. is that many arms dealers, either Americans or working for the American government, American defense contractors, similarly break many arms laws around the world. A particular reading of the U.S. government’s own arms exports policies would suggest that because of the human rights violations that are recorded annually in Saudi Arabia, the United States itself shouldn’t be selling weaponry to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. But as I mentioned, we’re in the process of a $60 billion arms deal between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia.

 

In terms of U.S. arms dealers, the regulations are, in my opinion, minimal. Many of those regulations themselves are violated by people transacting in weaponry across the U.S. and across the world. Who are those who face justice, like Viktor Bout? Who are those who don’t? Bout, as I’ve mentioned, was protected by U.S. authorities and U.S. intelligence agencies for a significant period of his career selling arms into Liberia, into Angola, into the Democratic Republic of Congo, etc., etc. Similarly, many dealers in the United States itself who transgress laws, minimal as they are, very seldom face the legal consequences of their actions, which is one of the reason why the domestic situation in the U.S. mirrors the global situation in the rest of the world.

 

And the only way to address this, the only way to keep our children safe in schools like Sandy Hook and around the country and around the world, is if in the biggest buyer and seller of weaponry, the United States itself, there is meaningful, strongly enforced regulation that ensures that people who do have access to extremely dangerous weaponry—and the vast majority of it is extremely dangerous—have extensive background checks, are monitored on an ongoing basis. And I would suggest that the weaponry itself and the ammunition should be tracked at all times.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein, I want to turn to NRA chief Wayne LaPierre again. He testified earlier this year at the United Nations opposing the global arms treaty.

 

WAYNELAPIERRE: The NRA is the largest and most active firearms rights organization in the world, with four million members who represent 100 million Americans who own firearms. On behalf of those 100 million American gun owners, I am here to announce NRA’s strong opposition to anti-freedom policies that disregard American citizens’ right to self-defense. No foreign influence has jurisdiction over the freedoms our Founding Fathers guaranteed to us. We will not stand idly by while international organizations, whether state-based or stateless, attempt to undermine the fundamental liberties our men and women in uniform have fought so bravely to preserve and on which our entire American system of government is based.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: The NRA’s Wayne LaPierre speaking in July. That same month, 50 U.S. senators signed a letter opposing the arms trade treaty. Eight Democrats signed the letter: Max Baucus and Jon Tester of Montana, Mark Begich and Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jim Webb of Virginia. Andrew Feinstein, your comments on what the NRA chief had to say about the global arms treaty?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: First of all, let me make absolutely clear that the NRA chief, in those words, showed primarily that he actually doesn’t understand the international arms trade treaty. The treaty that will be negotiated again at the United Nations early this year, as Amy mentioned, that unfortunately wasn’t passed in July because of the opposition of the United States, is intended to regulate international transfers of weapons. It would not impinge on the domestic situation in the United States of America, and nobody who I’m aware of who is involved in the negotiations is suggesting that it should. I must say that from my own perspective as an analyst of the global trade in arms, I think it would actually be a positive development if there were requirements for norms and standards domestically as well as internationally. But that is not going to be developed by a body like the United Nations. So Mr. LaPierre, in the first instance, does not understand the intention of the global arms trade treaty. And his organization has been responsible for distributing a whole range of myths about the treaty. His belief is that any regulation of weaponry and arms on a global level, on a domestic level, is wrong. And that’s where his opposition is coming from.

 

But let me make another point that I think is absolutely crucial about this and to understand where the NRA is coming from and, unfortunately, where the global trade in arms comes from, as well. And that is the linkages between politics and the gun lobby, and particularly, in terms of those linkages, money. One of the reasons that I focus on the global trade in arms in my work is because I saw, both in the context of South Africa, but also at a global level, the way in which money has come to pollute our politics. And the relationship between defense contractors on an international level and political parties and individual politicians are deep and profound. At a domestic level, the relationships between the NRA and specific elected representatives, not only in terms of money contributed, but also in terms of support given, are, again, profound. And unless we are able to break these linkages between money and politics that so pollute the way we are governed around the world, we will not be able to deal with some of the most intractable problems that face us as human beings—

 

AMYGOODMAN: Talk about—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: —problems of the weaponization of the world, problems of climate change.

 

AMYGOODMAN: Andrew Feinstein, the power of the NRA at the international level, as well—I mean, you have Wayne LaPierre lobbying against this. You talked about the U.S. being the main obstacle to the arms trade treaty—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: Yes.

 

AMYGOODMAN: —being ratified in July. We had human rights groups in, like Amnesty International, saying—I mean, the U.S. was just the essential—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: Absolutely.

 

AMYGOODMAN: —obstacle here. This is not under President Bush, but this is under President Obama, working, in a sense, oddly enough, hand in hand with the NRA on this issue at the United Nations.

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: I have not seen anywhere else in the world a gun lobby that has the same level of influence on its own government as the NRA does in the United States. My own assessment of what happened in July with the arms trade treaty is that the NRA, through the words of Mr. LaPierre and others, made clear to the Obama administration that it would make the president’s re-election a lot more difficult if he supported an international arms trade treaty. And I think it’s in that way that the NRA had such direct influence on the U.S. decision to effectively scupper negotiations for what in my opinion wouldn’t have been a strong-enough arms trade treaty, but would have been far better than any form of regulation that we have at the moment. So, yes, I think this is something of a unique situation, where a gun lobby has the extent of influence that it has in the United States of America.

 

And, of course, partly that is due to the Second Amendment, but what I find so astonishing about the domestic debate in the U.S. is that the Second Amendment is seen in isolation from the rest of the Constitution. It is seen in isolation of the right to life. The way in which Mr. LaPierre speaks about notions of freedom, I believe, are incredibly narrowly focused, to the point of being extremely jaundiced. What of the freedom of those 27 victims of the latest mass shooting tragedy in the United States of America? Because of the freedom of the killer’s mother to hold in her house the absurd number of highly dangerous weapons that she did, not just the freedom but the right to life of those 20 children and seven adults was taken away from them. So the Second Amendment must surely be understood within the context of the overall U.S. Constitution. But the political debate in the country—again, speaking as an observer, as someone who observes it from the outside—the tone of the debate is, again, unique. This desire, this right to bear arms, with so little thought given to the consequence of the hundreds of millions of Americans who are negatively affected by that right—

 

AMYGOODMAN: Andrew Feinstein—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: —is something that strikes the rest of the world as extraordinary.

 

AMYGOODMAN: How interlinked is the NRA, the National Rifle Association, with the weapons manufacturers, financially, politically?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: I don’t, in the book, have specific figures on that, but I would extrapolate from how this trade works around the world that there would be fundamental links and that those links would be at a number of levels. They would include, for instance, dialogue about products. They would include dialogue about marketing. They would include dialogue about strategies. They would also include, I’m pretty sure, money. I would be extremely surprised if American weapons manufacturers were not providing the NRA with a significant portion of its funding.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: And then there is another profound level, and that is again coming back to the idea of the revolving door, where I would imagine there is a pretty continuous flow of people between the gun lobby, between the NRA, and the major defense manufacturers in the country, because these are people whose interests are at one, who move in the same formal and informal circles, social and political circles.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein, before we conclude—

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: So I would suggest that the links would be profound.

 

NERMEENSHAIKH: Andrew Feinstein, before we conclude, very quickly, I wanted to ask you what is at stake, then, in this global arms treaty and the negotiations that are forthcoming? One of the things that you mention is that the total number of dollars spent in the global arms trade is now $1.7 trillion, which is over a 50 percent increase in just a decade.

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: We have seen—during this period of fiscal and economic crisis around the world, we have seen weapons transfers increase by 24 percent. So when we talk about a global arms trade, I would see this as a starting point, as a starting point in which the world takes the decision that the current status quo in the way that we produce, buy and sell guns, across borders and within borders, although the treaty is not dealing with the domestic internal situations, but to place a line in the sand to say that we have to change the way in which we produce and trade in weaponry, that we have to regulate this as severely, if not more so, than all the other threats to our health, to our well-being and to our ability to live. That is what is at stake in the international arms trade treaty, on which negotiations will restart in the very near future.

 

AMYGOODMAN: Andrew Feinstein, very quickly, I wanted to ask you about a comment of Stephen Graham, who wrote Cities Under Siege: The New Military Urbanism. He spoke last November on Democracy Now!, describing the level of equipment now accessible to police departments in the United States.

 

STEPHENGRAHAM: Well, there’s been a longstanding shift in North America and Europe towards paramilitarized policing, using helicopter-style systems, using infrared sensing, using really, really heavy militarized weaponry. That’s been longstanding, fueled by the war on drugs and other sort of explicit campaigns. But more recently, there’s been a big push since the end of the Cold War by the big defense and security and IT companies to sell things like video surveillance systems, things like geographic mapping systems, and even more recently, drone systems, that have been used in the assassination raids in Afghanistan and in Pakistan and elsewhere.

 

AMYGOODMAN: That’s Stephen Graham, author of Cities Under Siege. Final comment on this, Andrew Feinstein?

 

ANDREWFEINSTEIN: We are seeing the weaponization of the way we live in so many ways. Policing is just one of the most obvious and current examples in that. And I would suggest that the pervasive development of drone technology around the world, that we are seeing being used for all sorts of purposes, is really the thin edge of the wedge when it comes to these issues. We are going to see greater and greater weaponization of drones that we see used in Pakistan and Afghanistan and other places. We are going to see the appearances of those sorts of drones in our own domestic policing and surveillance activities in the United States and in Europe. And there is a huge element to them besides the obvious element of human rights, freedom, to the right to privacy, the right to free expression.

 

The other important dimension of them that runs throughout the weapons business is the issue of blowback, the reality that so often these very same weapons that we produce for purposes that we think are good come back to haunt us. And the United States domestically, in the case of Sandy Hook and many others, is only the most recent and most tragic example of that.

 

AMYGOODMAN: Andrew Feinstein, we want to thank you very much for being with us, author of The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade, working on a film version of the book. He is actually a former ANC member of Parliament in South Africa, speaking to us from London. This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. We’ll be back in a minute.

 

 

TABACCO: But wait! Wayne LaPierre was just paraphrasing a well-known, reliable source, who agrees whole-heartedly with him! If you agree with his Source, you must also agree with LaPierre!

 

Memorable quotes for
“All in the Family” Archie and the Editorial (1972)

 

 [Archie is delivering en editorial on a local TV station]
Archie Bunker: [on TV] Good evening, everybody. This here is Archie Bunker of 704 Hauser Street, veteran of the big war, speaking on behalf of guns for everybody. Now, question: what was the first thing that the Communists done when they took over Russia? Answer: gun control. And there’s a lot of people in this country want to do the same thing to us here in a kind of conspiracy, see. You take your big international bankers, they want to – whaddya call – masticate the people of this here nation like puppets on the wing, and then when they get their guns, turn us over to the Commies.


Edith Bunker: Oh, Archie, I’m glad they put you on a stool, you look taller sitting down.

 
Archie Bunker: [on TV] Now I want to talk about another thing that’s on everybody’s minds today, and that’s your stick-ups and your skyjackings, and which, if that were up to me, I could end the skyjackings tomorrow.


Michael ‘Meathead’ Stivic: You could?

 
Archie Bunker: [on TV] All you gotta do is arm all your passengers. He ain’t got no more moral superiority there, and he ain’t gonna dare to pull out no rod. And then your airlines, they wouldn’t have to search the passengers on the ground no more, they just pass out the pistols at the beginning of the trip, and they just pick them up at the end! Case closed.

 
Michael ‘Meathead’ Stivic: That’s incredible, Arch.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0509806/quotes

 

To hear Archie’s unparalleled wit for yourself, go to:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM


Carroll O’Connor or Wayne LaPierre?

 

Tabacco: So now we know from whom Wayne LaPierre gets his inspiration! But if you think that’s Looney Logic, wait until you read what Ben Stein said today, January 9, 2013, on CNN!

 

Ben Stein said he didn’t think that “Guns were the problem”. He thinks Video Games and Hollywood films are the problem. Don’t laugh yet because he’s partly correct. The Video Games are a menace and so are those Action Hollywood films! But Stein goes on to say that in North Idaho – where he lives – everybody has a gun and the murder rate is very low, whereas in California the Gun Laws are very restrictive but the murder rate is astronomical.

 

“A little learning is a

dangerous thing”

 

The points that Ben Stein misses or ignores are

 

A)   If North Idaho is so safe, then why all the guns in the first place – we do not buy into that unproven Sophistry that North Idaho is so safe because of all those guns!

B)   Columbine High School is in Jefferson County, Colorado – North Idaho is so different from Colorado – how?

C)   California has lots of people and both racial and religious diversity – North Idaho has few people and no diversity that even Ben Stein could see. Yes, I saw ‘My Own Private Idaho’, and I know what Idaho is like: miles and miles of rolling hills and scenery, and not too many faces. If you placed California’s Gun Laws in Idaho, nothing would change – except those homes, a few miles apart, wouldn’t have lots of guns.

D)   The Clutter family, murdered for that nonexistent safe, lived in Holcomb, Kansas, subject matter for Truman Capote’s ‘In Cold Blood’. How does North Idaho differ from Holcomb, Kansas?

E)   Now if you placed North Idaho’s PERMISSIVE Gun Laws in California, the Murder Rate – as high as it may be – would INCREASE ASTRONOMICALLY!

 

Ben Stein is NOT STUPID – he knows better. I can only conclude he was being deliberately disingenuous to make an NRA-biased point.

 

Ben, your NRA membership has been renewed!

 

Shame on Ben Stein for his SOPHISTRY! You are better than that, Ben!

 

CNN introduced Stein mentioning his TV show, his financial credits and other positives, but nothing about his predispositions, his biases or his personal lobbying incomes. So DOUBLE SHAME on CNN for not mentioning Stein’s obvious partiality before exposing its viewers to this shill.

 

 

Excerpts from ‘Piers Morgan Tonight’ Interviewing Larry Pratt, Exec. Director, Gun Owners of America, January 9, 2013. I transcribe the Interview but omit the replies of Mr. Pratt because in all honesty he isn’t saying anything I want to transcribe. I for one am sick to death of these NRA-type Capitalists, whose sole purpose is to SELL MORE GUNS no matter how many Innocent Victims Die! If you want more bullshit, Google the NRA or Gun Owners of America!

 

PIERS MORGAN: You know there were armed Security people at Virginia Tech. You know there was an armed Sheriff at Columbine. And you know that at Fort Hood, one of the most heavily guarded military bases in the world, 13 people were killed and 29 wounded.

 

My point, Mr. Pratt, is even when you have a mass of well-trained people and a mass of firearms, you can still have massacres!

 

Do you know how many Mass Shootings have occurred in the last 30 years (FBI definition is 4 or more casualties in same place)? The answer is 62!

 

Of those 62 Mass Shootings, do you know how many times a Civilian has actually taken out the Shooter? In the last 30 years there have been 62 Mass Shootings – not a single one has ever been thwarted by a civilian despite America being a heavily armed country.

 

You have in America 300-million guns in circulation. 99 Laws have been passed since 2009 to make it easier for Americans to own guns, to carry them in public, to make it harder for the government to track. What I’m seeing here is a picture of evermore-relaxed gun laws and a Spike in Mass Shootings! And in fact 6 of the 12 Worst Mass Shootings in America have come in the last 5 years.

 

Yet every time these things happen, Mr. Pratt, you come out – and you’re very vocal, and you’re proud of what you say – you basically say the same thing, “If everybody had been armed, somebody would have killed the shooter and prevented the massacre.”

 

TABACCO: It is obvious to any honest person that if armed professionals cannot prevent these Massacres, Amateurs such as grandma, grandpa, Mr. Pratt, Mr. LaPierre and Archie Bunker couldn’t prevent them either.

 

ALL THE GUN PROTAGONISTS WANT TO DO IS SELL MORE GUNS! I see fewer reasons to listen to them than I do giving Mass Murderers a platform.

 

These Jerks, who want everyone to own lots of guns, seem to forget America already went through a period in its history where anybody could carry guns anywhere – as many as he wanted. It was called

 

      

 

 

PS I was wrong about your Black President. I saw on TV yesterday that he is now considering what ‘All In The Family’ audiences laughed at a generation ago – he’s considering the NRA recommendation that armed guards be installed in our schools.

 

Forget about the Cost, while Obama cuts Medicare, Social Security & Medicaid, maintains or increases War Funding and removes the few tidbits left to most Americans! Obama is NOT stupid! He knows, without my reminding him, that the NRA recommendation of ‘armed guards in schools’ is both self-serving and ridiculous. Obama is making a political calculation to facilitate his own presidency rather than benefit the American Public as a whole. Whether he does it or not, he has now lent

 

CREDIBILITY TO

 

     ARCHIE BUNKER!

 

SHAME ON

 

BARACK OBAMA!

 

Tabacco: I consider myself both a funnel and a filter. I funnel information, not readily available on the Mass Media, which is ignored and/or suppressed. I filter out the irrelevancies and trivialities to save both the time and effort of my Readers and bring consternation to the enemies of Truth & Fairness! When you read Tabacco, if you don’t learn something NEW, I’ve wasted your time.

 

Tabacco is not a blogger, who thinks; I am a Thinker, who blogs. Speaking Truth to Power!

 

In 1981′s ‘Body Heat’, Kathleen Turner said, “Knowledge is power”.


T.A.B.A.C.C.O.  (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization) – Think Tank For Other 95% Of World: WTP = We The People

 

 

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7 Responses to GUN CONTROL! “Guns Don’t Kill People; People Kill People!” – NRA Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre. AMY GOODMAN: “A Newtown church was evacuated on Sunday after police responded to a threat against those inside. An Indiana man equipped with a 47-gun arsenal was arrested on Sunday after allegedly threatening to kill children at a local elementary school. Oklahoma police arrested an 18-year-old high school student on Friday who was allegedly planning a school-shooting massacre. In Newport Beach, California, an alleged gunman was arrested after reportedly firing 50 shots in a mall parking lot. In San Antonio, Texas, two men were reportedly injured in a shooting at a movie theater Sunday night.” – Tabacco: Without A Gun, Nobody Could Shoot Nobody! If Little Johnny Aims A Pistol At You In Fun, Do You NOT Fear For Your Life Because It’s Only Little Johnny With The Gun?

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    Video: Cuomo explains NY SAFE Act
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 1:36 pm by Casey Seiler, Capitol bureau chief
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    Courtesy Kyle Hughes of NYSNYS.com, here’s complete video of Gov. Andrew Cuomo and top aides laying out the provisions of the NY SAFE Act on Monday night, about an hour before the Senate began its vote on the gun control measure.

    Enjoy:
    http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/175973/video-cuomo-explains-ny-safe-act/

    Republished by Tabacco: NYS now has toughest GUN LAW in the Nation: A BEGINNING to End The ARCHIE BUNKERS of America!

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    RELIGION & FAITH VS. INTELLECT!

    Notre Dame’s athletic director and the star of its near-championship football team said the widely-reported death of the star’s girlfriend from leukemia during the 2012 football season was apparently a hoax, and the player said he was duped by it as well.

    Manti Te’o, who led the Fighting Irish to the BCS championship game this year and finished second for the Heisman Trophy, said in a statement today that he fell in love with a girl online last year who turned out not to be real.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/notre-dame-football-star-manti-teo-dead-girlfriend/story?id=18232374

    TABACCO: Just one more example of what can happen when we desert Logic, Research, Cynicism & Skepticism in favor of TRUST, FAITH and HOPE in humans that have no “track record” with you! “Religious” Tactics and Strategies do NOT WORK – you cannot apply them to life! Tabacco does NOT even believe the “God” in the Bible was the TRUE GOD! Yes, I do believe in God, but I don’t believe he fathered a “Son”, proclaimed the Jews as His Chosen, made Eve out of Adam’s rib or walks around Heaven all day with a humongous hard-on!

    Human beings, ET, dogs and cats have physical being and are therefore mortal. If God had a head, two arms, two legs and a penis, He would be mortal – that means God would die!

    Heaven, if it exists and it is UP^, would be everywhere because every spot in the universe is UP^ at any given moment somewhere on earth.

    Only RELIGIOUS “FAITH” could induce SANE people to believe the Fairy Tales the Bible would have us believe! Yet, many Religious Purists scoff at the idea of Extraterrestrials and ancient Roman & Greek Mythology – but not at the Bible or the Quran! I call that ‘CHERRY PICKING’.

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    The next time you hear someone say, “I’m not going to let anyone take away my 2nd Amendment rights!”, tell them, “Children have rights too – among them is the Right not to be shot and killed by some jerk with a gun, spouting platitudes about his 2nd Amendment rights!”

    Tabacco

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    4-Year-Old Boy Accidentally Kills Himself with Father’s Gun
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    A four-year-old boy has died in Houston after shooting himself with his father’s gun. Jaiden Pratt picked up the weapon as his father lay asleep and accidentally fired a round into his own stomach. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/2/26/headlines#2268

    Republished by Tabacco: Notice the NRA Silence on this one! This isn’t about a “good guy” with a gun vs. a “bad guy” with a gun; this is about a “four-year-old with a gun against himself” – I wonder if his father is sorry now that his son is dead or if he will say, “Don’t mess with my 2nd Amendment Rights!”

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    Archie Bunker Would Be So Proud!

    South Dakota Opens Door to Guns in Classrooms
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    South Dakota has become the first state to legally allow teachers to carry firearms in class. On Friday, Republican Gov. Dennis Daugaard signed into a law a measure that allows individual school districts to decide whether teachers can be armed. Georgia’s state Senate, meanwhile, is now taking up a similar bill that would strike down bans on guns in bars, churches and colleges.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/11/headlines#3117

    BUT THERE IS HOPE!

    Colorado Lawmakers Advance Gun Control Measures
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    Colorado lawmakers have advanced a new package of gun control measures spurred by the state’s mass shootings in Aurora last summer and in Columbine over a decade ago. In a marathon session, Colorado’s state Senate advanced proposals including universal background checks, barring guns from domestic abusers, and restricting the size of gun magazines. If given final approval, the measures would constitute some of the toughest gun laws in the country.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/11/headlines#3116

    AND

    Survey: Declining Gun Ownership for U.S. Households
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    New figures show U.S. gun ownership per household is on the decline. A survey by The New York Times shows while 50 percent of households owned a gun in the 1970s, the figure today is 34 percent. Other studies have reported a smaller decline, with the number at 43 percent.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/11/headlines#3118

    TABACCO: Take that, Wayne LaPierre!

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    DON’T BE SHOCKED – AFTER ALL, IT IS IN THE ‘DEEP SOUTH’!

    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/4/2/headlines#424

    Georgia City Makes Gun Ownership Mandatory
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    A city in Georgia has gone in the opposite direction of other states on gun control, making it mandatory for heads of households to own a gun and ammunition. City Council members in Nelson, Georgia, voted unanimously in favor of the ordinance to “provide for the emergency management of the city” and “protect the safety, security and general welfare” of residents. The measure exempts felons, people with certain disabilities, and those who object to owning guns.

    Republished by Tabacco

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    4-year-old shoots 6-year-old days before Senate gun control debate

    A 4-year-old shoots 6-year-old with a .22 caliber rifle and kills him in Toms River, N.J. The 4-year-old shoots 6-year-old in the same week that the Senate is expected to hold a vote on gun control.
    By Staff, Associated Press / April 10, 2013
    http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Family/2013/0410/4-year-old-shoots-6-year-old-days-before-Senate-gun-control-debate

    TABACCO: When I was a little boy in Cincinnati, I knew exactly where my Uncle Bill kept his handguns – in a green strongbox along with some 1/2-cent pieces and other keepsakes. Yes, America used to mint 1/2-cent pieces.

    Every New Year’s Eve, promptly at midnight, he fired into the air to celebrate the new year. I had a healthy respect and fear of guns at a very young age. I knew the difference between my cap shooter “play” pistol and his gun. Not all 4-year-olds are so fortunate!

    Is it worthwhile, for some perceived danger in a low crime area or high crime area for that matter, to keep loaded guns around where 4- and 6-year-olds can “play” with them and kill each other?

    These are NOT Bad Adults – they are however STUPID ADULTS! They play right into the hands of the NRA, gun manufacturers and gun dealers, whose sole purpose is NOT 2nd Amendment Rights, but making as many Dollar$ as they can – regardless of who gets killed accidentally or otherwise – Cops, Security Guards, Innocent Bystanders, Bigots, Little Old Ladies or Pre-School Children!

    Don’t let anybody (George W. Bush or the NRA) stampede and frighten you into doing or permitting them to do something that you know intellectually is wrong, dangerous and possibly fatal!

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